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Post by 65cuda on Jul 7, 2008 15:04:24 GMT -5
I think this gets over looked alot, I even forget sometime to plan for it. but at large events EMS coverage is required by the Dept of Health -(DOH), I didn`t see any first-aid tent at the Tri-Five, and it was a large event, I did see a Twin City Paramedic fly car respond, I guess someone at the event had a medical emergency, surprised more didn`t with the heat
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Post by 69olds442 on Jul 7, 2008 15:53:39 GMT -5
I know what you mean Ray. Can you help us with this at Olcott this year?
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 7, 2008 16:04:30 GMT -5
You guys are all set I have Olcott fire co. standing by for you, they have this cool 4-wheeler EMS vehicle
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Post by 69olds442 on Jul 7, 2008 20:00:01 GMT -5
That's great Ray! Thank you very much!
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 7, 2008 20:07:32 GMT -5
No problem Tim they like doing EMS
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Post by swi66 on Jul 9, 2008 8:47:53 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity......... How big does an event have to be to have EMS coverage?
I think a lot of events don't have this coverage......... And what type of event does it have to be?
No coverage at Niagara car show and swap meet, but what would the time be for a "first responder"? Where I work we do not have to have a trained first aid crew on hand as we are within 5 minutes of a first responder.
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 9, 2008 12:45:49 GMT -5
here is some info from the DOH,
18.4 Emergency Health Care Requirements
(a) (1) For 5,000 to 15,000 attendees, there shall be one emergency health care facility onsite staffed by a minimum of two emergency medical technicians, one ambulance onsite staffed by at least one emergency medical technician, and the services of a physician available to the site within 15 minutes. Documentation shall be provided showing that local, municipal and public safety officials, including police, fire and local emergency medical services personnel have been advised of the event in writing. (2) For 15,001 to 30,000 attendees, there shall be two emergency health care facilities onsite, each staffed by two emergency medical technicians, one ambulance onsite, staffed by at least one emergency medical technician and the services of a physician available to the site within 15 minutes. Documentation shall be provided showing that local, municipal and public safety officials, including police, fire and local emergency medical services personnel have been advised of the event in writing. (3) For 30,001 to 50,000 attendees, there shall be two emergency health care facilities onsite, each staffed by two emergency medical technicians, two ambulances onsite, each staffed by at least one emergency medical technician, and a physician onsite. Documentation shall be provided showing that local, municipal and public safety officials, including police, fire and local emergency medical services personnel have been advised of the event in writing. (4) For over 50,000 attendees, there shall be two emergency health care facilities onsite, each staffed by two emergency medical technicians, three ambulances onsite, each staffed by at least one emergency medical technician, a physician onsite and a written statement shall be available describing the impact the event will have on public safety and emergency medical services in the area, which must include comments by local police, fire, emergency medical services personnel and other public safety officials who have jurisdiction to provide services. (b) Any modifications of staffing or the method of providing emergency health care facilities or the onsite ambulance requirement of paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of this section is subject to approval of the permit-issuing official. (c) Additional emergency medical services, ambulance service, equipment, supplies and personnel, as the permit-issuing official may require because of special circumstances, including but not limited to the location and nature of the event, accessibility to existing emergency medical services systems, access and weather conditions shall be made available. (d) A chronological log and individual record for each patient receiving emergency medical care shall be maintained on a form prescribed by the permit-issuing official. A copy of each report and the log are to be maintained on file by the function sponsor for seven years and available to the department upon request. (e) Advanced life support (ALS) services may be substituted for the physician on call or site if the ALS is at the 3 or 4 level as described in section 800.45(d) of this Title and with the approval of the permit-issuing official. (f) The permit holder shall file any report, following the event, as may be required by the permit-issuing official.
18.5 Miscellaneous requirements
Bleachers or similar structures at a public function must be safe. If the public function is also a place of public assembly or other place or activity subject to regulation by the New York State Department of Labor, then the permit-issuing official may seek information from that agency to aid evaluation of the safety of such structures.
18.6 Unexpected Attendance
In the event that actual attendance at a public function shall exceed the estimate used for determining the required equipment, supplies and personnel by more than 20 percent, it shall be the responsibility of the permit holder to provide immediately the additional sanitary facilities, medical equipment, supplies and personnel required.
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 9, 2008 12:58:55 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity......... How big does an event have to be to have EMS coverage? I think a lot of events don't have this coverage......... And what type of event does it have to be? No coverage at Niagara car show and swap meet, but what would the time be for a "first responder"? Where I work we do not have to have a trained first aid crew on hand as we are within 5 minutes of a first responder. we are talking the big events with thousands of people, I`m not sure what the attendance is at some large shows, but why take a chance.
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Post by swi66 on Jul 9, 2008 13:34:13 GMT -5
I wonder if they have the EMTs on site for the Concert Series in Lockport?
That would be a great one for you to get...........
Get paid to attend a concert.........
I never really thought about it before. I bet Niagara falls under that as all the attendees are not there all at once Maybe Tri-five falls under that as well..........
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 9, 2008 16:13:33 GMT -5
I wonder if they have the EMTs on site for the Concert Series in Lockport? That would be a great one for you to get........... Get paid to attend a concert......... I never really thought about it before. I bet Niagara falls under that as all the attendees are not there all at once Maybe Tri-five falls under that as well.......... I bet its Lockport rescue that supplies the Paramedics for the concerts, there union would never let the city of Lockport sub contract EMS, But in the past I got paid to watch concerts, ( I seen Kiss), Hockey games, football games, Erie county fair, also attend all the festivals in buffalo my favorite is the taste of buffalo, I liked standing by at Ransomville speed way center track
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 9, 2008 16:38:54 GMT -5
How many realize, the DOH wants you also to get a permit when holding a public event, this is so they can spot check you. Really makes you want to run an event!!
18.3 Permit required to hold or promote a public function
(a) No person shall hold or promote, by advertising or otherwise, a public function unless a permit has been issued for said function by the permit-issuing official. (b) Application for a permit to promote or hold a public function shall be made to the permit-issuing official, on a form and in a manner prescribed by the State Commissioner of Health, by the owner/lessor of the land or facility, and the person who will promote or hold the public function. Application for a permit to promote or hold a public function shall be made at least five days before the first day of advertising and at least 30 days before the first day of the event. The application shall be accompanied by an emergency medical services operational plan complying with the requirements of this Part and any supplemental plans, reports and specifications as the permit-issuing official shall require because of concerns raised by specific circumstances pertaining to the event. In addition, the applicant shall attach to its application a copy of the crowd control plan filed or required to be filed by it with the New York State Emergency Management Office pursuant to chapter 288 of the laws of 1988. (c) A permit shall be valid for the time period specified thereon. (d) A permit may be revoked by the permit-issuing official or the State Commissioner of Health for failure to comply with the terms of the permit. (e) A permit issued for the operation of a public function shall be posted in the emergency health care unit or function office and be made available on request. (f) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary contained in the foregoing subdivisions of this section, a permit shall not be required under this Part for an event which also constitutes a mass gathering subject to the permit requirements of Part 7 of this Chapter; provided, however, that all of the other requirements of this Part shall be applicable thereto.
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Post by 65cuda on Jul 9, 2008 18:54:17 GMT -5
I think the state takes things to the extreme
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