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Post by oldschoolcruiser on Mar 4, 2007 12:06:36 GMT -5
Yesterday on TV I saw that Chevy is discontinuing the Monte Carlo nameplate. Since '72 that car has been a popular icon.....and the models of late really don't look that bad. What's the matter with these guys? It seems like they keep dumping names that have built up goodwill over many years in favor of stupid ones on ugly cars after their tv commercials with retro music won't help sell them. I know if I could afford one, I'd buy a new Riv......but they quit making that model too!!!  And I wouldn't be seen DEAD driving anything called a Rendezvous or La Crosse no matter how sharp or fast it was! Is it just me or do I need to just get with the new century or something? |
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Post by 95gts on Mar 4, 2007 13:02:24 GMT -5
This is the second time they stopped making them...anotehr bad mistake agreed, about the only car in chevys line up I would buy....other then trucks, really not a reason to go to a Chevy lot...
Now buick, go try out the lucern, that is a great car, almost like toyota made it. Best fit and finnish I ever seen GM put into a production car, just me. I like that car. Drive my century, you change your mind lol
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Post by benny on Mar 4, 2007 16:05:57 GMT -5
the monte started out in 70 and was a big heavy full frame car...another in line like chevy had..like caprice...although it could be optioned with a 454/buckets/console...it was not as attractive as the chevelles..later on they tried to advertise it as a sport/luxury car with all the bells and whistles. My opinion is that I didn't like it then, because of the weight and performance,and I never did like it from there on. Not sorry to see it go.
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Post by 65cuda on Mar 4, 2007 16:39:18 GMT -5
My favorite GM is a Buick Grand National  |
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Post by benny on Mar 5, 2007 8:25:57 GMT -5
I liked alot of GM cars. I thought the corvette,in several years was a great looking car..also some chevelles,some camaro's...alot of 50's pontiac's,olds and buicks really interest Me...some 442's...some gto's....70 GS was nice.....
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Post by oldschoolcruiser on Mar 5, 2007 9:35:23 GMT -5
GM just can't seem to get it right. That GTO as of late was a flop.......hauled azz, but was butt ugly. It was an insult to the original GTO and all it's owners. Ford had no problem though.......if I could afford one, I'd be driving one of those gorgious new Mustangs. What a sharp car! Grand nationals never really appealed to me......I think they're flimsy cars. I got my whooped pretty good by one once though! It's truly amazing what a supercharger and intercooler does for a v6....but still not my cup of tea. I like big cars with big motors. ;D |
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Post by benny on Mar 5, 2007 15:31:08 GMT -5
Haven't run into a grand national I didn't see in My rear view mirror yet...really pisses those guys off when an old car and driver stomps them properly...I love it....
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Post by oldschoolcruiser on Mar 5, 2007 20:16:40 GMT -5
When people pull up alonside you at a redlight, I don't think they realize the torque animal you have under your hood, Tom.  |
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Post by swi66 on Mar 6, 2007 6:48:59 GMT -5
Last good GM car was the Corvair...............
Sorry guys, but everything from the general I've owned or had to work on made since 1970 has been a nightmare. Grandfather bought a new Corvette in 1978, it was garbage. Had nothing but trouble with anything else too..............enough to keep me away from the brand entirely.
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Post by keeffer on Mar 6, 2007 6:55:00 GMT -5
thats the problem
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Post by oldschoolcruiser on Mar 6, 2007 11:08:46 GMT -5
Last good GM car was the Corvair............... Had nothing but trouble with anything else too..............enough to keep me away from the brand entirely. I'm glad to know someone else feels the way I do.....the only difference between your opinion and mine is that I think they were ok up until somewhere around '72 or so, that's when things started getting cheesey. I remember my days working in the field during the '80's.......the majority of cars with a lit 'check engine' light and broken door handles were all GM products. But I guess what really did it for me was around '78 when they started putting rear wheel cylinders in the mid size cars that held in with just a Jesus clip.  Then they recalled them because they would twist out and burst.......and the recall "solution" was to wrap them with a cheesey bracket that didn't really hold well anyhow. The only fix was to open up the rear end, slide out the axles, replace the backing plates and wheel cylinders......including brake shoes, axle seals, etc. Usually about a $800 job b/c of poor engineering. Then there were the ones that were made without a "C" clip on the rear axles........they liked to just slide out as you were driving! I did a few of those recalls when I worked at the chebby dealer. Real safe cars.  I could go on.......... |
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Post by swi66 on Mar 6, 2007 12:38:56 GMT -5
I had an 80 Malibu, I picked up for $75 with a few problems. Bought it because I figured the V-6 would get better mileage than the 76 t-Bird I was driving with the 460. that got 14 MPG.
Malibu: rear wheel cylinders, backing plates, brake lines. Then noticed the leaky gas tank..........Another $75 for a southern tank.
replaced all 4 doors, with 2 different color doors due to the handles ready to fall off. Doing a tune up, broke off the AIR injector tubes.............had to weld the manifolds shut.........Then noticed the radiator had all the baffles falling out.....................
by the time I got the car roadable I had another $700 into it..........Started driving it and under no circumstances would it get even 10 MPG! Gas went through it like guanno out of a ducks behind............put it out front and was happy to get $300 for it.
Started driving the T-Bird again...............
I had 2 El Camino's and a GMC sprint, fast, dependable, easy to work on, handy to use............frames rotted out of all 3............Bought a 76 Ranchero, loaded, 160,000 miles, in 1986, $500.......drove the wheels off it, did almost nothing and ran it up to 280,000 miles and got my $500 back when I sold it.
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Post by benny on Mar 6, 2007 12:53:08 GMT -5
I've had all the gm cars and now have a malibu for the Wife...nice except at 70k the intake gaskets are leaking fluid, typical among GM V6 and 8 cars. (leaked on my 97 chevy half ton..350 engine) They rate the coolant at 100k but it screws up the gaskets way beforehand. I put some sealer in the system and hope it holds. Got rid of My mopar cause the trans was bad...chevy has a gasket problem...ford has all kinds of problems.....next step for the wife is an import.
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Post by oldschoolcruiser on Mar 6, 2007 14:22:39 GMT -5
Then there's my Dodge Caravan......these are notorious for lousy transmissions. I sold my last one for $400 on the front lawn b/c I thought the tranny was shot. The guy who bought it had it replaced ($1500) and even stopped over after to thank me for selling it to him so cheap. Then I got another one........after owning it for 6 months, that tranny started doing the same thing (constantly going into "limp mode")........ended up being a corroded solenoid connector on the firewall! Cost me $0 to fix. Now I'm wondering if that's all that was wrong with my first one?  Aside from the fluid leaking from it, it runs great and is very dependable for a vehicle with over 160,000 miles on it. Still runs and drives like new. As for the Tempo......our first one was a '92. Great car, gave it to my son and it got totalled by an suv.  The '94 we got now has cost me more to keep running than I paid for it, but it's only got 50k or so miles on it so I just keep fixing it. Maybe a Mopar the next time, we'll see.......but definitely not a GM car unless it was free. |
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